Mr.Rawrstix's Amazing Application of Infinite Greatness ©

So you would let a hacker play after a few hours of jail time ? He gained illegit levels but eh I guess we can let him keep those levels he gained so we don't ruin his fun !

Hes just gonna go play his ps3, watch porn and eat, then come back and laugh at how stupid the GM who handled him was dumb for not banning him.

If every GM out there had the same rules, everyone would be hacking until they get caught, then stop and enjoy the easy levels/items they gained.

MrRawrstix wrote:

Hugo wrote:

So you would let a hacker play after a few hours of jail time ? He gained illegit levels but eh I guess we can let him keep those levels he gained so we don't ruin his fun !

Hes just gonna go play his ps3, watch porn and eat, then come back and laugh at how stupid the GM who handled him was dumb for not banning him.

You forgot the water-boarding and stress induced torture.

Do I believe speed-hacking and fly hacking should result in perma ban? No I don't. Although if it's a rule to ip ban any hack then so be it.
Other hacks that I may consider to be a greater risk to the community and to the server are ipban worthy.

This is just how I would operate without any restrictions given by the owner. With said restrictions, my plan of action may differ.

Hacking is hacking, whatever the hack is.
They know its against the rules, doing so is saying fuck the rules. GMs are here so we follow rules.

Thats my way of seeing things though.

If it was in GMS, a GM caught you fly hacking or speed hacking, he wouldn't think;

He would obviously think and do;

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Hacking is hacking, whatever the hack is.
They know its against the rules, doing so is saying fuck the rules. GMs are there so we follow rules.

Thats my way of seeing things though.

Apply that logic to real life and you'll need to build a lot more cemeteries and execution devises.
I guess we see things differently.



It's not my opinion or yours that will truly affect what I do as a GM though so I wouldn't worry about it to much if I were you.

MrRawrstix wrote:

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Hacking is hacking, whatever the hack is.
They know its against the rules, doing so is saying fuck the rules. GMs are there so we follow rules.

Thats my way of seeing things though.

Apply that logic to real life and you'll need to build a lot more cemeteries and execution devises.

Cemeteries and execution ? So every crimes and every thing thats not allowed to be done in real life has the same consequence, and its death ?

If you do something you're not allowed do, the consequences have to be faced. If you apply YOUR logic to real life, killing someone for the first time would only give the murderer a warning, or a few hours/days in jail.
(Don't troll me because I used that example, I know its maple)

No, you would obviously suffer the right consequences because you did not follow the rules.
I'm pretty sure the rules for hacking are pretty obvious for everyone though, Jailing someone who's hacking just sounds stupid to me, but your right;
I'm not the one deciding, just wanted to share my opinion.

Hugo's right. Just don't respond my eyes are hurting from reading everything.

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Cemeteries and execution ? So every crimes and every thing thats not allowed to be done in real life has the same consequence, and its death ?

If you do something you're not allowed do, the consequences have to be faced. If you apply YOUR logic to real life, killing someone for the first time would only give the murderer a warning, or a few hours/days in jail.
(Don't troll me because I used that example, I know its maple)

No, you would obviously suffer the right consequences because you did not follow the rules.
I'm pretty sure the rules for hacking are pretty obvious for everyone though, Jailing someone who's hacking just sounds stupid to me, but your right;
I'm not the one deciding, just wanted to share my opinion.

Okay I'm going to say what I've already said before, but in a different way.

If a hack is detrimental to the users ability to play and enjoy the game then I would ipban them. I compare this to murder.
If a hack is small like a speed hack then I believe jail time in necessary. I compare this is robbery.

I'm done discussing this, I feel my opinion on the matter has been properly expressed and will await approval/disapproval from the owner.

MrRawrstix wrote:

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Cemeteries and execution ? So every crimes and every thing thats not allowed to be done in real life has the same consequence, and its death ?

If you do something you're not allowed do, the consequences have to be faced. If you apply YOUR logic to real life, killing someone for the first time would only give the murderer a warning, or a few hours/days in jail.
(Don't troll me because I used that example, I know its maple)

No, you would obviously suffer the right consequences because you did not follow the rules.
I'm pretty sure the rules for hacking are pretty obvious for everyone though, Jailing someone who's hacking just sounds stupid to me, but your right;
I'm not the one deciding, just wanted to share my opinion.

Okay I'm going to say what I've already said before, but in a different way.

If a hack is detrimental to the users ability to play and enjoy the game then I would ipban them. I compare this to murder.
If a hack is small like a speed hack then I believe jail time in necessary. I compare this is robbery.

I'm done discussing this, I feel my opinion on the matter has been properly expressed and will await approval/disapproval from the owner.

You understand the robber and the murderer would both go to jail though right ? Just saying.
Jail to me is more for Kill Stealing; Cussing abusively; disrespecting a GM for a first offense; etc.

Hackers should not be banned for the hacks they are using and the problems they cause to the community, they should be banned for NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES.

I know KSing, Cussing, etc are not following the rules too, but it can happen on the spot, while being angry or for some other reasons, that is why I believe those should get a warning, and if they persists, a ban.

Hacking though, is an other thing, its not in a RAGE moment. You actually have to download this shit, so you've had the time to think about what you're doing.

I'm done too, my point has been made.

I liked it bro.
Great title by the way.

Truth hacking is hacking you cannot let the hackers that are only doing something small slide, when the guys hitting cap damage at lvl 70 get the short end of the stick.

or else it would be safe to say that someone who robbed 1,000 dollars from a bank should only have to sit in the corner for 20minutes while the guy who cleared out the entire vault gets 15 to 20 years.

Xtreme wrote:

Truth hacking is hacking you cannot let the hackers that are only doing something small slide, when the guys hitting cap damage at lvl 70 get the short end of the stick.

or else it would be safe to say that someone who robbed 1,000 dollars from a bank should only have to sit in the corner for 20minutes while the guy who cleared out the entire vault gets 15 to 20 years.

If someone is speed hacking and I catch them, jail them for a bit, and release them, they then can decide whether or not they actually want to be on this server. It’s not directly affecting the community and if it gets to a point where it is then sift action will take place.
My metaphor only works so far, applying it more than it was meant to applied will, of course, show fault in it.

I never meant this to be so "controversial" but it seems it has become that. I clearly see both sides of the argument and explaining your side any further would be a tad redundant, as is the case with the past 10 posts. If it so concerns you what I may do if I happen to become the next GM then assure yourself this, I will follow the guidelines given to me and work within those guidelines.

If anyone would like to comment on any other part of my application then be by guest.

lol u dont understand, its still considered hacking. If a new comer comes in and see people flying what will they think? i suggest u change the way u think and it does affect the community. I know what u mean but its not the way people will see it and it wont work, but its up to u change it or not and up to them to accept you on this.

now ii see wat u mean