Make the server less easy?

I don't know if any of you guys have noticed, but even with the lower rates this server is still far too easy. Here are the reasons I believe so.

1. The potential system is way off on here. It is far too easy to obtain "godly" equips. It took me like what, 20 cubes to get my 27% luk overall?

2. Nerf leeching. I am indeed guilty of having most of my characters leeched. However, after going back to GMS and leveling my WildHunter(135) and Aran(103) with nothing but some shit equips and my hopes and dreams; I noticed how much more rewarding it felt. I believe a high level should be earned, not bought.

3. We all know it, the economy sucks in this server. I believe that one way to get out of this is to make skill books needed for your skills. The only thing we spend mesos on are potenial'd equips, cubes, and marks.

This is all coming from someone who used to play the server. I'm not planning on playing, I just think these would help the server a lot.

I'd hit....Buuuut only if there was a complete wipe and re-do of the server.

Gach needs to have the appropriate scrolls.

Nerf leeching isn't possible unless you have two computers so I think that's okay.

Unless you get your server pretty much like NidoMS, I don't see any point in lowering the rates. Which means getting rid of all those donated items which are obviously over powered and make it so that GM scrolls and other things like Timeless weapons can only be made with the maker skill/bought through Donating. Everything else like 200 weapon attack hats? Nty.

Like I said, Nido was a role model. No point lowering the rates unless it's got a stable economy.

Malik wrote:

I'd hit....Buuuut only if there was a complete wipe and re-do of the server.

Gach needs to have the appropriate scrolls.

Nerf leeching isn't possible unless you have two computers so I think that's okay.

Unless you get your server pretty much like NidoMS, I don't see any point in lowering the rates. Which means getting rid of all those donated items which are obviously over powered and make it so that GM scrolls and other things like Timeless weapons can only be made with the maker skill/bought through Donating. Everything else like 200 weapon attack hats? Nty.

Like I said, Nido was a role model. No point lowering the rates unless it's got a stable economy.

Future reference, anyone talking about Nido in game or on forums will be banned by me, i'm tired of hearing about a failed server.

Hey guys c:
Let's up the bandwidth usage for players so we can save money and NOT buy an even more expensive dedi because I'm a selfish asshole.
Yup, Nido is definitely a model server. Selfish owner, and lag every 2 seconds because he's too cheap to buy a better server, and just makes the players suffer instead. Great model, great.

1. Called luck, 45 cubes on my overall gave me nowhere near the same thing.

2. A "rewarding" experience is subjective. Most people don't really care whether they leeched or actually leveled up. Don't try to project your idea of "rewarding" and "fun" on others, it usually doesn't work all that well.

3. l0l skillbooks, no. I'd make equips a bit harder to get though.



I also don't see the point of you making this thread seeing as how you don't even play the server and thus neither suffer discontentment with the current state of affairs nor will you reap the benefits of any future change, but whatever.

1. Yeah i used 115+ cubes on my timeless equinox and its still not unique. GG.

2. I mean It doesn't matter to me. If I get the pap medal (which im aiming for) I'll feel accomplished. But if you dont feel accomplished enough then make a class more challenging. Like a 2Handed Blunt Weapon Pally (Blast is a stab move and the sword in general does more damage than the general Blunt Weapon). Or how about a Pole Arm Spearman? I always wanted to try a full-INT pally (I dont know if magic attack has anything to do with the Pallys damage so dont flame).

3. I mean skillbooks are fun. the feeling that you passed a 50% one is good. But At skeles they are annoying. But maybe lower the drop rate on the skill books?

and @malik. no its not. it IS possible. DestinyMS did it. If the person who is getting leeched goes afk, he or she gets less exp. So if the person getting leeched attacks once in a while he or she will be fun. But it IS possible to Nerf the leech (which MIGHT make the leech cost go up to maybe 4-6m per level)

/end rant.

ITT:No name newfags

Marlboro wrote:

ITT:No name newfags

<3 u

TBH leeching isn't really this servers problem,
it's just a great example of laziness.
We all have a choice to train our characters to feel that sense of achievement.

Marlboro wrote:

I don't know if any of you guys have noticed, but even with the lower rates this server is still far too easy. Here are the reasons I believe so.

1. The potential system is way off on here. It is far too easy to obtain "godly" equips. It took me like what, 20 cubes to get my 27% luk overall?

2. Nerf leeching. I am indeed guilty of having most of my characters leeched. However, after going back to GMS and leveling my WildHunter(135) and Aran(103) with nothing but some shit equips and my hopes and dreams; I noticed how much more rewarding it felt. I believe a high level should be earned, not bought.

3. We all know it, the economy sucks in this server. I believe that one way to get out of this is to make skill books needed for your skills. The only thing we spend mesos on are potenial'd equips, cubes, and marks.

This is all coming from someone who used to play the server. I'm not planning on playing, I just think these would help the server a lot.

1) You're just lucky. People like myself spend 200+ cubes on a single item just to get it to 27%. Heck, it's not even there yet.
2) Leeching = Having Mesos = Having a method to earn mesos. That's hard work, as well. You can't just log in and get free mesos off the ground. Also, you can only leech all the way to 130, I believe. After that, there's no more, 'cause the bishops will be too impatient to deal with you.
Besides, if you kill leeching like kMS did, the bishop population will dramatically decrease since there is no use of a bishop except for HS or Heal. If that happens, then bishops will need a serious attack boost, since some of them will be bored at hanging on a rope and tapping the HS key once every few minutes.
WildHunters and Arans are known to be characters that can get to high levels with bad equips 'cause they kill so fast. Try getting an NL to 120 with crappy equips. You'll feel hell.
3) Having Skill Books with a 3x drop rate is a bad idea. Then, you get kids that just came from GMS and get scammed for 100m for a Skill Book that you can get from mobs in 5 minutes. Also, if you decide to do that, what about the skills you must complete quests to get? They're still going to be bugged, so capping Mastery again would mean that a lot of job classes will be left without skills. (i.e. You need to complete quests and kill Phoenix to get the skill Phoenix for BM's, but how do you get that when the quest is bugged?) Adding to that, the 3x drop rate will just make people annoyed since the overload of skillbooks will fill up their inventory. That's why we had them removed, remember?

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

1. Called luck, 45 cubes on my overall gave me nowhere near the same thing.

2. A "rewarding" experience is subjective. Most people don't really care whether they leeched or actually leveled up. Don't try to project your idea of "rewarding" and "fun" on others, it usually doesn't work all that well.

3. l0l skillbooks, no. I'd make equips a bit harder to get though.



I also don't see the point of you making this thread seeing as how you don't even play the server and thus neither suffer discontentment with the current state of affairs nor will you reap the benefits of any future change, but whatever.

Uhm, does it matter who he is? I don't see what having a name in-game has to do with making a point, or trying to make a point.

As for getting 27% equips from 20 cubes, I guess you're extreme left compared to me being extreme right where i have used 200+ cubes and not gotten a single 27% item. How nub is that...

Leeching is purely preferential, some people enjoy the slower lvling and take more pride to call it their own work and meet people on their way to the top, while others are much more competitive and just care about being one of the best, I could not care less whether other people leech or not, I go my own way.

as for the skillbooks, I don't see what big a difference it would make. I'm quite sure that if skillbooks were indeed available as monster drops your post would look more like this:

Quote :

3. We all know it, the economy sucks in this server. I believe that one way to get out of this is to make skill books needed for your skills. The only thing we spend mesos on are potenial'd equips, cubes, and marks, and skillbooks

Going from 3 different things bought in the FM to 4 won't fix SoulMS' economy.

I basically stated what Inebriated said, yet now it's coming from the mouth of someone who is a somebody in this server. Looking forward to hearing what you have to respond with.

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Malik wrote:

I'd hit....Buuuut only if there was a complete wipe and re-do of the server.

Gach needs to have the appropriate scrolls.

Nerf leeching isn't possible unless you have two computers so I think that's okay.

Unless you get your server pretty much like NidoMS, I don't see any point in lowering the rates. Which means getting rid of all those donated items which are obviously over powered and make it so that GM scrolls and other things like Timeless weapons can only be made with the maker skill/bought through Donating. Everything else like 200 weapon attack hats? Nty.

Like I said, Nido was a role model. No point lowering the rates unless it's got a stable economy.

Future reference, anyone talking about Nido in game or on forums will be banned by me, i'm tired of hearing about a failed server.[/quote

O_o Okay? D:

Can I ask how exactly it failed with 900+ players on average and a perfect donator setup? O_o I'll stop talking about it but it's one thing to hate on a server that did REALLY well and to hate on it if it was complete shit.


Calling me a newfag doesn't make me a newfag rofl. Maybe to your server, yeah. I'm so new and yet it took me like 3 days to almost perfect my hero. I'm such a newfag and I don't know how to do anything of anything with anything, whatsoever. D:

I'm going to stop posting now because I'm a newfag and always will be.

lol @ malik. bro he wasn't even talking to you.

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

1. Called luck, 45 cubes on my overall gave me nowhere near the same thing.

2. A "rewarding" experience is subjective. Most people don't really care whether they leeched or actually leveled up. Don't try to project your idea of "rewarding" and "fun" on others, it usually doesn't work all that well.

3. l0l skillbooks, no. I'd make equips a bit harder to get though.



I also don't see the point of you making this thread seeing as how you don't even play the server and thus neither suffer discontentment with the current state of affairs nor will you reap the benefits of any future change, but whatever.

I'm some random. Sorry if I had to have joined when you actually played to be significant. I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, only on certain matters, so there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. I wasn't aware that "newfags" that aren't complete idiots still weren't entitled to an opinion.

My IGNs are actually my sig, but seeing as how you don't play at all, I don't know why you would give a fuck.

EDIT: If your avatar and sig are any indication, you were on Qribble way back when, in which case you would actually know me somewhat.

wait if he/she doesn't play at all then why is he/she still on the forums?

Inebriated wrote:

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

1. Called luck, 45 cubes on my overall gave me nowhere near the same thing.

2. A "rewarding" experience is subjective. Most people don't really care whether they leeched or actually leveled up. Don't try to project your idea of "rewarding" and "fun" on others, it usually doesn't work all that well.

3. l0l skillbooks, no. I'd make equips a bit harder to get though.



I also don't see the point of you making this thread seeing as how you don't even play the server and thus neither suffer discontentment with the current state of affairs nor will you reap the benefits of any future change, but whatever.

I'm some random. Sorry if I had to have joined when you actually played to be significant. I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, only on certain matters, so there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. I wasn't aware that "newfags" that aren't complete idiots still weren't entitled to an opinion.

My IGNs are actually my sig, but seeing as how you don't play at all, I don't know why you would give a fuck.

EDIT: If your avatar and sig are any indication, you were on Qribble way back when, in which case you would actually know me somewhat.

Yeah, I played New Storybox and Old Storybox

Figured. Hehe, I only remembered you because I remember finding that avatar hilarious for some reason. Yeah, I was a forum mod for the new Storybox (spent more time being a forum whore than doing any real moderating, but whatever). It's a shame it was short lived.

Inebriated wrote:

Figured. Hehe, I only remembered you because I remember finding that avatar hilarious for some reason. Yeah, I was a forum mod for the new Storybox (spent more time being a forum whore than doing any real moderating, but whatever). It's a shame it was short lived.

Didn't one of the coders get cold feet?

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

Figured. Hehe, I only remembered you because I remember finding that avatar hilarious for some reason. Yeah, I was a forum mod for the new Storybox (spent more time being a forum whore than doing any real moderating, but whatever). It's a shame it was short lived.

Didn't one of the coders get cold feet?

LOL, I wanted to avoid saying that, but yes, you're pretty much right.

He ran into a certain issue that I've since forgotten, and decided he didn't want to deal with it. Well, obviously having the main coder walk out when a server's in beta is bad....

Inebriated wrote:

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

Figured. Hehe, I only remembered you because I remember finding that avatar hilarious for some reason. Yeah, I was a forum mod for the new Storybox (spent more time being a forum whore than doing any real moderating, but whatever). It's a shame it was short lived.

Didn't one of the coders get cold feet?

LOL, I wanted to avoid saying that, but yes, you're pretty much right.

He ran into a certain issue that I've since forgotten, and decided he didn't want to deal with it. Well, obviously having the main coder walk out when a server's in beta is bad....

I believe it was something along the lines of. I don't want to potentially ruin the rest of my life financially for Maplestory.

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

Marlboro wrote:

Inebriated wrote:

Figured. Hehe, I only remembered you because I remember finding that avatar hilarious for some reason. Yeah, I was a forum mod for the new Storybox (spent more time being a forum whore than doing any real moderating, but whatever). It's a shame it was short lived.

Didn't one of the coders get cold feet?

LOL, I wanted to avoid saying that, but yes, you're pretty much right.

He ran into a certain issue that I've since forgotten, and decided he didn't want to deal with it. Well, obviously having the main coder walk out when a server's in beta is bad....

I believe it was something along the lines of. I don't want to potentially ruin the rest of my life financially for Maplestory.

Eh, it was that combined with a more technical issue iirc.

Buono wrote:

lol @ malik. bro he wasn't even talking to you.

If that's true, ignore my comment. :/

2NE1 wrote:

Marlboro wrote:

I don't know if any of you guys have noticed, but even with the lower rates this server is still far too easy. Here are the reasons I believe so.

1. The potential system is way off on here. It is far too easy to obtain "godly" equips. It took me like what, 20 cubes to get my 27% luk overall?

2. Nerf leeching. I am indeed guilty of having most of my characters leeched. However, after going back to GMS and leveling my WildHunter(135) and Aran(103) with nothing but some shit equips and my hopes and dreams; I noticed how much more rewarding it felt. I believe a high level should be earned, not bought.

3. We all know it, the economy sucks in this server. I believe that one way to get out of this is to make skill books needed for your skills. The only thing we spend mesos on are potenial'd equips, cubes, and marks.

This is all coming from someone who used to play the server. I'm not planning on playing, I just think these would help the server a lot.

1) You're just lucky. People like myself spend 200+ cubes on a single item just to get it to 27%. Heck, it's not even there yet.
2) Leeching = Having Mesos = Having a method to earn mesos. That's hard work, as well. You can't just log in and get free mesos off the ground. Also, you can only leech all the way to 130, I believe. After that, there's no more, 'cause the bishops will be too impatient to deal with you.
Besides, if you kill leeching like kMS did, the bishop population will dramatically decrease since there is no use of a bishop except for HS or Heal. If that happens, then bishops will need a serious attack boost, since some of them will be bored at hanging on a rope and tapping the HS key once every few minutes.
WildHunters and Arans are known to be characters that can get to high levels with bad equips 'cause they kill so fast. Try getting an NL to 120 with crappy equips. You'll feel hell.
3) Having Skill Books with a 3x drop rate is a bad idea. Then, you get kids that just came from GMS and get scammed for 100m for a Skill Book that you can get from mobs in 5 minutes. Also, if you decide to do that, what about the skills you must complete quests to get? They're still going to be bugged, so capping Mastery again would mean that a lot of job classes will be left without skills. (i.e. You need to complete quests and kill Phoenix to get the skill Phoenix for BM's, but how do you get that when the quest is bugged?) Adding to that, the 3x drop rate will just make people annoyed since the overload of skillbooks will fill up their inventory. That's why we had them removed, remember?

You obviously have not leveled an Aran post BB. I got ksd constantly by those "NLs with bad equips.

Marlboro wrote:

2NE1 wrote:

Marlboro wrote:

I don't know if any of you guys have noticed, but even with the lower rates this server is still far too easy. Here are the reasons I believe so.

1. The potential system is way off on here. It is far too easy to obtain "godly" equips. It took me like what, 20 cubes to get my 27% luk overall?

2. Nerf leeching. I am indeed guilty of having most of my characters leeched. However, after going back to GMS and leveling my WildHunter(135) and Aran(103) with nothing but some shit equips and my hopes and dreams; I noticed how much more rewarding it felt. I believe a high level should be earned, not bought.

3. We all know it, the economy sucks in this server. I believe that one way to get out of this is to make skill books needed for your skills. The only thing we spend mesos on are potenial'd equips, cubes, and marks.

This is all coming from someone who used to play the server. I'm not planning on playing, I just think these would help the server a lot.

1) You're just lucky. People like myself spend 200+ cubes on a single item just to get it to 27%. Heck, it's not even there yet.
2) Leeching = Having Mesos = Having a method to earn mesos. That's hard work, as well. You can't just log in and get free mesos off the ground. Also, you can only leech all the way to 130, I believe. After that, there's no more, 'cause the bishops will be too impatient to deal with you.
Besides, if you kill leeching like kMS did, the bishop population will dramatically decrease since there is no use of a bishop except for HS or Heal. If that happens, then bishops will need a serious attack boost, since some of them will be bored at hanging on a rope and tapping the HS key once every few minutes.
WildHunters and Arans are known to be characters that can get to high levels with bad equips 'cause they kill so fast. Try getting an NL to 120 with crappy equips. You'll feel hell.
3) Having Skill Books with a 3x drop rate is a bad idea. Then, you get kids that just came from GMS and get scammed for 100m for a Skill Book that you can get from mobs in 5 minutes. Also, if you decide to do that, what about the skills you must complete quests to get? They're still going to be bugged, so capping Mastery again would mean that a lot of job classes will be left without skills. (i.e. You need to complete quests and kill Phoenix to get the skill Phoenix for BM's, but how do you get that when the quest is bugged?) Adding to that, the 3x drop rate will just make people annoyed since the overload of skillbooks will fill up their inventory. That's why we had them removed, remember?

You obviously have not leveled an Aran post BB. I got ksd constantly by those "NLs with bad equips.

Well, your aran sure is crap, getting KS'd by an NL.
You also seem to not know the difference between equipped and not equipped. It's they guys with the lv40 equips and subis we call crap, not the ones with the ZHelms and Scandas that throw steelies. If you seriously got KS'd by an NL throwing subis, then 1) you suck, 2) you suck, and 3) u suck.

Also, this is big bang arans that go all STR, correct? I have a lv73 hermit in kMS and the only way to keep them out of my map is to threaten smegas and bringing in friends to ks him back for as long as he plays.