Level 250? Poll

Some people can't even make it to 200 xD
But i think people who are lvl 200 now will like it
+1

if people tried, they get to 200 so its fine..

Ya Leave It At 200

Sure,why not? I'm after all the first non-donor level 200.
+1 support

I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one.

Unless it's worth it to me, I don't see why I should put myself through 50 more levels on the same character. Will there be new skills? A new 5th Job? New weapons? I don't know why I'd want to level to 250. Is the experience going to be much less than from 199-200? Is it going to be more?

There's a lot of questions that should be addressed with this, in my opinion.

Plus, before taking care of new things, maybe you guys should work on the many glitches that are already on this server? Just a "suggestion".

Anna wrote:

phomaniac wrote:

I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one.

Unless it's worth it to me, I don't see why I should put myself through 50 more levels on the same character. Will there be new skills? A new 5th Job? New weapons? I don't know why I'd want to level to 250. Is the experience going to be much less than from 199-200? Is it going to be more?

There's a lot of questions that should be addressed with this, in my opinion.

Plus, before taking care of new things, maybe you guys should work on the many glitches that are already on this server? Just a "suggestion".

There are glitches in every server, some just can't be fixed. Some aren't a big enough issue to be fixed. And honestly the way you put that sounds pretty damn rude.

People are slowly but surely hitting 200 now. Maybe you haven't, but others are. By 200 you don't really have much to do. You can continue bossing, or keep trying to get money in an attempt to buy better gear. But level 200-250 gives people more ap, meaning they can get stronger. Meaning bossing and helping their friends level would become a lot easier for them.

No ones forcing you to hit 250. You could stay at 200 if you wanted to.
But why would you even hit 200? Do you get new skills from about 150-200? No. Is the experience going to be much less that from 120-150? No. So why hit 200? Because you can get to 200, for the rankings, and to get stronger.

Getting to 250 is the same as getting to 200. A private server has higher rates than GMS. Therefore it's 60x easier to hit 200 than in GMS. Therefore, I personally think a higher level, due to the higher exp, would be a good plan.

You're right, there are glitches on every server, private or public, however it seems to me that this particular server is neglecting the issues a bit. I don't mean to come off as rude, so please don't take it that way. However the answer you gave me, shows the culture of this server a little bit... Some issues aren't big enough to deal with? Some of these glitches are down to the core of the game, when a 2nd job skill like Drain isn't working it makes me think, "How long has this not been working if it's 2nd job?" Glitches like voting systems and such are very understandable so don't get me wrong.

Yea, people are hitting level 200... It wasn't something that people weren't supposed to hit. What I'm getting at is, sure you can raise the level to 250. What happens when people hit 250? Will you guys raise it to 300? Will you add rebirths? You can do tonnes of things after you hit 200, you can make a new character, you can boss, you can help your friends, like you said. The only thing that will be accomplished by increasing the level limit is adding another 10 days or so of leveling.

How will you go about the coding for it? Will you guys lower the EXP rate every level after 250? As I recall, you cannot get the EXP needed to level above 2.2B, could be wrong.

And yes you get more SP for new skills after level 150 =) at least to level 170ish.

I think it's more valuable to introduce a rebirthing system to the game rather than raising the level to 250. Perhaps you could have a lower exp rate after each rebirth, say 50x after 1st, 40x after 2nd and 30x after 3rd, everything after stays at 30x? You'd a new set of skills (random or of choice) after each rebirth? Whatever.

There are some advantages that GMS that makes it easier than 1/60 than here. More people = more parties or boss runs. Zakum arms I've heard don't give 60x, only 1x? Could have been fixed already... but it was at one point. More people are willing to boss at HT for good experience and pendants. GMS has 2x cards to bring the ratio down to 30x... Doesnt' really matter.

In the end, I didn't mean to offend your suggestion or idea. However, there's a lot of content that can be fixed now.

Thanks

A rebirth system would crash kiddies.
Since Evan skills glitch if used by another class. Chances are this could possibly be fixed, but I'm not the one coding and it's completely up to Johnny whether he does want to try and fix it or not. There's also the issue of the damage cap, as well.

And there's only one coder, I doubt he wants to sit there fixing every single last little glitch all day. He fixes as much as he can while still going to see his friends and having a life.

Minor glitches, or glitches that can be fixed by changing a map, or using @dispose etc just won't be dealt with due to the fact that they're not severe enough to cause major issues.
The other ones will be fixed slowly so Johnny has his own time.

Frankly speaking, I never knew that Evan skills would glitch if used by other classes. Either way that's not what I had in mind for rebirths. You'd lose your current skills and start over with a new skills that Soul or Johnny would define. For example, SE and HB.. Or HS and Haste. The issue with the damage cap can be solved fairly easily on lower version clients, no idea if it's possible on v88+.

The point about Johnny's resources go either way I think. It's a neutral issue, there would have to be some time spent for exp curves and some thought put towards getting around the 2.1B exp limit.

This would be pretty amazing, without rebirths once you hit 200 it would get pretty boring so putting it up to 250 would at least give people a bit more of a challenge when it comes to leveling. So if this were to be possible I would say go for it.

I would LOVE it.
I used to play some low rate server, and I did hit 200 on it and yes, bossing, making cash and gear is fun, but having an extra 50 levels ? Oh I would have loved that, if you don't want to keep leveling to 250 cause its too hard, just don't.
200 is already a big achievement.

phomaniac wrote:

I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one.

Unless it's worth it to me, I don't see why I should put myself through 50 more levels on the same character. Will there be new skills? A new 5th Job? New weapons? I don't know why I'd want to level to 250. Is the experience going to be much less than from 199-200? Is it going to be more?

There's a lot of questions that should be addressed with this, in my opinion.

Plus, before taking care of new things, maybe you guys should work on the many glitches that are already on this server? Just a "suggestion".

5th job ? You didn't seriously ask that... anyway
Why would you want 50 more levels ? Fun, extra AP, something to aim for besides new gear and making cash/new character.

And I think its pretty obvious the exp would be more then earlier levels unless they decide to lower it for what ever reasons, some people might think its too much, but cmon its 60x exp

phomaniac wrote:

How will you go about the coding for it? Will you guys lower the EXP rate every level after 250? As I recall, you cannot get the EXP needed to level above 2.2B, could be wrong.

With the original exp curve the exp needed from 199-200 was in this range but with the current exp curve in v88 its somewhere around 1.xxbil exp to level if I remember correctly.
I know what you mean when you say the max value could be 2.147bil, I might be wrong but I think it wouldn't be an issue since Ive seen it in other private servers, besides some server with really high exp rates has bosses giving more then 2bil exp and if MS can give exp that value, I don't see why it wouldn't work for our exp gain. Just my thought though.
Either that, or they just slowly increase the exp from 1.xxbil to 2.147bil from 200 to 250.

phomaniac wrote:

There are some advantages that GMS that makes it easier than 1/60 than here. More people = more parties or boss runs.

Aw cmon don't give me that bullcrap that GMS has its advantages because theres more people, with the rates of SoulMS and everyone leveling at a good speed, Zak runs shouldn't be more then 6 people when you reach a certain point, and if you do reach it, unless you're an ass hole, you're made some friends, enough to boss and party with hopefully.

SORRY LONG POST

I'm not saying it's hard. Read a little closer. I'm saying there's no point. With no extra content in the mix, it's in my opinion that leveling from 200-250 is going to be empty.

5th job? Guess I should have used the sarcasm font... Oh wait... there isn't one. =P Extra AP to do what? Zakum some more? lol doesn't take very long to solo Zakum... but for it's ridiculous price of 15M per eye of fire it becomes expensive for the amount of exp you'd get at level 210+. Sure you can go to Horntail but - oh wait - the warper is glitched so you have to actually do the quest... That's a non issue if you can get 6 people who know what they're doing.

60x exp isn't an issue. No argument here.

GMS Zakum run was only 6 people because we NEEDED 6 people to get in. Believe me, even before potentials were introduced to GMS we were Zakuming with 6 people in <10minutes. And I can solo Zakum so maybe you're argument is void, but then I will point to Horntail. You won't be soloing HT on this server with the equips we have now. GMS you can go to HT and get good exp and good equips that will fetch some good Meso. +1 GMS. What I was saying with that point is that, no SoulMS isn't "60x faster to level than GMS." It's not. The exp rate is 60x, but not everything is the same. Apples and Oranges.

But it doesn't matter because it's not like I have veto power lol... If Soul wants it, it'll happen. Unless they decide it's too hard.

-1 'cause 250 reminds me of FinalStory.

2NE1 wrote:

-1 'cause 250 reminds me of FinalStory.

What's wrong with that? lol
Mateo coded a good server.

Anna wrote:

2NE1 wrote:

-1 'cause 250 reminds me of FinalStory.

What's wrong with that? lol
Mateo coded a good server.

When I played, I got 119 SP for my first job advancement, and I could only loot 1 drop every three seconds. Also, almost every 3rd advancement KoC skills were bugged. Quests didn't work there, and I thought that 150x EXP was a bit overkill for a low rate server.

2NE1 wrote:

Anna wrote:

2NE1 wrote:

-1 'cause 250 reminds me of FinalStory.

What's wrong with that? lol
Mateo coded a good server.

When I played, I got 119 SP for my first job advancement, and I could only loot 1 drop every three seconds. Also, almost every 3rd advancement KoC skills were bugged. Quests didn't work there, and I thought that 150x EXP was a bit overkill for a low rate server.

Mateo had a decently coded server, you must have just had a loose connection to it.

Although i do agree calling 150x a low rate is ridiculous, and quests not working isn't the end of the world. KoC are terrible, along with DB, Aran and Evan, so no harm there.

OT : I think it should be raised to 250, it might stop people from complaining about no rebirth.

I agree with upgrading the Level Cap to 200 - 250. +1

But it would be a lot better if we could get a few more skills if that is possible, just to make getting to level 250 More worth while. Like the Legendary Scroll (Does not require you to equip Equipment to scroll it)

Also i think maybe a 250 mount? that we Acquire at level 250. Since we get mounts 70 - 120 - 200 for us adventures. Or maybe Equips.

Lastly will the Cap be increased on the Cygnus Knights?

Cheers
Virus

Dk wrote:

I agree with upgrading the Level Cap to 200 - 250. +1

But it would be a lot better if we could get a few more skills if that is possible, just to make getting to level 250 More worth while. Like the Legendary Scroll (Does not require you to equip Equipment to scroll it)

Also i think maybe a 250 mount? that we Acquire at level 250. Since we get mounts 70 - 120 - 200 for us adventures. Or maybe Equips.

Lastly will the Cap be increased on the Cygnus Knights?

Cheers
Virus

If you knew anything about global, you'd know how to get the Legendary Spirit skill, because i have it on my Dark Knight, Dank.

I'd assume from 200-250 each level would be 2.1b exp? if so it sounds pretty neat, perhaps to offer some incentive, besides upranking and bragging rights, 210/220/230/240/250 could offer some incremental rewards, like apples/chocolate/soulpoints

I do think on a non reborn server (which is awesome tbh as it keeps some competetiveness in the game) there needs to be some kinda raised cap, else once you hit 200 its pretty much game complete

Sylph wrote:

I'd assume from 200-250 each level would be 2.1b exp? if so it sounds pretty neat, perhaps to offer some incentive, besides upranking and bragging rights, 210/220/230/240/250 could offer some incremental rewards, like apples/chocolate/soulpoints

I do think on a non reborn server (which is awesome tbh as it keeps some competetiveness in the game) there needs to be some kinda raised cap, else once you hit 200 its pretty much game complete

Apples and gelt as prizes ?

Doing 200 to 210 alone, if the exp needed is like you said, 2.1bil per level or something, that would be more exp then doing 1-200 again. Don't you think if we were to be rewarded, we should earn something a little better ?

Decent Sharp Eyes, HyperBody, etc. is an idea.
(please no decent door, that shit is so useless with the warper, I hope no donor were stupid enough to get it)

I know donors have access to them, and they would be mad(some of them) if us who didn't pay to play, would get to earn them. BUT, us high levels are in a way keeping the server alive the way I see it.

Just an idea.

yeaaa 1+

i didn't even reach lvl 200 yet but .. Okay

Hugo wrote:

Sylph wrote:

I'd assume from 200-250 each level would be 2.1b exp? if so it sounds pretty neat, perhaps to offer some incentive, besides upranking and bragging rights, 210/220/230/240/250 could offer some incremental rewards, like apples/chocolate/soulpoints

I do think on a non reborn server (which is awesome tbh as it keeps some competetiveness in the game) there needs to be some kinda raised cap, else once you hit 200 its pretty much game complete

Apples and gelt as prizes ?

Doing 200 to 210 alone, if the exp needed is like you said, 2.1bil per level or something, that would be more exp then doing 1-200 again. Don't you think if we were to be rewarded, we should earn something a little better ?

Decent Sharp Eyes, HyperBody, etc. is an idea.
(please no decent door, that shit is so useless with the warper, I hope no donor were stupid enough to get it)

I know donors have access to them, and they would be mad(some of them) if us who didn't pay to play, would get to earn them. BUT, us high levels are in a way keeping the server alive the way I see it.

Just an idea.

I'm a donor and I like this idea. I'm not paying $30 for Decent Sharp Eyes I don't even know if I can even transfer it from Char to Char. So having them as a reward for leveling would be great.